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This document pretains to SAT-LOA-20030609-00113 for Application to Launch and Operate on a Satellite Space Stations filing.

IBFS_SATLOA2003060900113_438208

                                                                               RECEIVED
                                   Before the                                       JuN 1 3 2005
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Applieation to Constmct, Launch &
Operate a DBS Satelte (DBS®)
Athe 86.5° WL Orbitl Location


                              REPLY OF TELESAT CANADA

          "Telesat Canada (*Telesa")hereby file ts esponse to the Consolidated Reply to
Oppositions and Comments ofEchouar Satllte L.LC.("EchoStar®) in the above captined
proceeding. In that Reply, EchoStar appears to supeest that, given the disruptivinerference
concemsraised by other prtie, Teleatincluded, ts Applieation tuse the 86.5° WL. orbtal
positin for DBS serviceshould no longer be considered on ts own butintead folded into a
broadefulemaking addresing so—called "tweener steliteisues", should the Commission
decide t nitistesuch a proceeding. Telesat welcomes EchoStar‘s apparent acknowledgmentthat
its Applicationto use the 86.5° W.L. DBS posiion is premature, bt emains ofthe view that the
HchoStar Applicaton should be denied ouvight

        HEchoStar observes tht,in the Telesat Oppositon to is Application, the concems
expressed over a DBS satelite locted at 865* W L. relate to the ability oconsumers o uilize
dal—feed anternaswith the existng Telesat DBS satelites t the $2° and 91° W L. posiions.
And while EchoStar found tat ... these concems doillstatethe benefit ofproceeding by
meansoa rilemaking on the questions elted o 4.5" degree orbital spacing" instead,
pparently, ofconsideringthis Applieationon thestrengths o ts own merits or ack thereof—
EchoStar merelystatesthat these concems could be addressed by a coordination condition "so
Tong as th plans ofTelesat and ExpressVdo not implieate use oftiplefeed" anternas."
(EchoStarat2) Later on that same page, EchoStar further observes tht "{nJether Telest nor
ExpressVmentions any planto use triple—feed antennas®,and then concludes:
       "Nevertheless, EchoStar blieves thatthe concems reised by Telesat and
       ExpressVa regarding iterferenceto existing Canadion DBS opertions,furter


         wunderscore the need for the Commissionto inarulemalking on the tweener
         satellite issuesto determineamong othe things, whether theinteference that
         may be caused by tweenersatelites in existing DBS networks would be
         acceptable and if so, whethertechnical rles can be etablshed to ensure tht
         these satelites do nt limit th ablity ofexisting DBS provider o ake
         advantage ofsuch innovations astriple—feed antennas.Ifthe Commission does
         initite such arulemaking proceeding, EchoStar believes hat ts scope could
         appropriately encompass theissue owhether a DBS stelite at the 86.5° W.L.
         orbital location can be compatibly operated with existing DBS sateites."
         (EchoStarat23)
         In response, Tlesat would firt note that, if EchoSta believed that th"dual—feed
 antenna" issue could be simply resolved by a coordination condition it is curious hatthey would
 go on to state thatthese concems "underscorethe need" for the Commision o initate a
comprchensiverulemaking proceeding. Indeed, as Telest observed n is Oppositon at page4,
on March 31, 2008, EchoSta itelf acknowledged n a leterto the Commission hat "pon
further study,45 spacing between U.S. DBS satelltes raises cetain echnicl dificultes,
especillyfor ‘muhiple feed" arth tation dishes(Le., those designed t receve programming
eedsfrom more han one sateliteat a time"" (emphasis added) This descries exnctly the
situstion Telesatand BellExpressVa ar in with the current Nimig DBS satelitsat 82° and 91°
wi?

        1t s also common knowledge in theindustry thatTelesat was awarded the Canadlian
suthorization for development of th 72.5" WL. DBS positon in December 2003 and is curenty
operating an iterim satlite in that posiionto allow the U.S. ervice provider DirecTV to
provide a DTH servics io the US., untl a new satelite can be constucted and placed into
serviceat that posiion bythe end of2008. One ofthIndustry Canada Conditions oficence for
"Telesat o use this position requiresthat a minimum of 50 percent othe capacity on the new
satelite beretained for Canadian broadcasting undert us untl the linch ofthatsatelte, and
that Telesaintiata call fr intrest t determine Canadian needs fothisreained capocit.® It
stands treason thata Canadian broadeastig Tcensee willhavean interest in otsining at leas a
portion ofthis additional capacity at 72.5° W.L.to ue in conjunction with the networks atthe
  EhS lene o FCC Re: Repot No. SPB—196 Reduced Spacing Detween US. DBS Satlites (aed
Mr.31,2009)
* rurbermore, thesesteites have bee       designed o providcoveragofhe U.S.and hav been approved
ty the Commiion orthe delivery ofDTH sevices wihi he US. See Diptal BroodbndApplicions
C Orde, DA €2—1526 (May 7,2008) ile No. SEs—11G—20020109—00002.
* see Condin 3 ©)oh Industy Conada Condiions oficencefr Telest Conada (elesa) 12 GH:
158 Srelite Gperatngat72.3Orkrl Postio, pstd on Indusy Conada‘s Svateis webute t
htpi/stategitigccxepic/nternetinant—gst nslensD]879hi#Approvasintrincipl.


 91982 ° W.L. posiions, thus making a "rilefeed"anterna network a very real possblit. By
 EchoStar‘s own admission,thabiliy to successfully coordinate a tweener sstlite network in
 these circomstances is questionable:
         "EchoStar speeifiall argued [in connection withthe Spectrum Five Pettion for
         a Declaratory Ruling to servethe U.S. market using BSS spectrum from the
          114.5° W.L.location) that the potenial benefts fom 4.5° orbital spocing depend
         on crucial assurption— that there would be no potentil for unaceeptable Tevels
         ofinterference from these s—called‘tweenerstelites t existing U.S. DBS
         networks and theirmilions of subscribers EchoSar further pointed out that
         recent developments,including the increasing importance of "iiple—feed" DBS
         antennas to U.S. DBS consumers, have broughtthat assumptionint serious
         question:"(Echotarar2)
        Other EchoStar comments in the parile Spectrum Five tweener appliation proceeing
are similaly revealing. For exarmple, EchoStar states at page 3 n ts Oppostion t the Spectrum
Five application‘ that it ecently withdrew ts own pending pplications fortwo tweener satelites
at the 96.5° and 123.5° orbtal ocations because ofhesetpes ofinterference concems, butin a
featmotestates that it did not wihdraw itstweener appliation forthe $6.5° W.L. position
"secause thereare no U.S. DBS sateltes within4.5 degrees ofhis loction"" Tt is truthat there
are no U.S. DBS satelites within 45 degrees otis location — rather therearetwo Telesat
Canadianicensed DBS satelites spoced £.5 degrees on ether sideofthis position, witha thid
"Telest Canadian—Heensed slotat72.5° W.L. The exact same interference concems threfore
arise, and should have csused EchoSta to wthdraw this hird tweener appliation. In te absence
ofa valuntary withdrawal, the Commission should akthe appropriatactionand deny the
application

         Further, lsewhere in ts Opposition to the Spectrum Five tweener sppliation, EchoStar
sures:
         "There is also a srlous questionas to whether Spectram Five has complied with
         the informational and echnical requirements othe Commission‘s Rules. In
         finding Spectrum Five‘s predecessor Pttion defective, the Inermational Bureau
         concluded that it hadnot provided al oftheinformation required underthe
         Rules such as a‘suffcient technicl showing thath proposed systems could
         operte satisfactory fallassignments in the Broadcasing—SateliteService
         (‘BSS")and feedeink Plans were implemented," in aecordance wth Section
         25.114(0)(13)(). See Leter fom Fem J Jarmulnck to Todd M. Stunsbary, DA
         05—354, File No. SAT—LOT—20041228—00228 (Feb, 17. 2005) (‘Dismiseal
         Letter}. While Spectrum Five appears o have provide[si}a partialinerference
* Echoat, Oppostton o Ptionor Declretery Ruling,File No SAT—LOL—20080312:00062 and SAT—
Lo—200s0312.00063,May16,2008.
"Tid,fomoteS.


         analysis n its refled Patiton, it learly does not demonstratetht theproposed
         operation ofits tweener satelfites could operte satisfictorly ifall US.
        assignment n the BSS and feeder link plans wereimplemented. For example,
         Spectrum Five idetifies numerous tet points tht substantally exceed the
        threshold change n oventl equivalentprotection margin (0.28 dB) that triggers
        the agreementsecking process under the ITU‘s rules.... t simply is insoficient
        to asset, based upon these preliminary resul,tht coordintion willbe ‘readily
        achievable." ... Indeed,for some ofhe sameresons expressed in the Dismissal
        Lerter, , the filure t provide technical anlyses demonstrating that the
        system‘s impoct[on] ther frequency assignments in the Region 2 Pln and any
        proposed modifictions to the Region 2 Plan tht have been received by the
        NTUMBR is neeligile,[sc] the Bureau should once again dismiss te Petion as
        defective and uniceeptableforfling.""
         EchoSfar‘s own tweener stelite applieation fothe 865* WL. posiion is open to the
exsct same crtiisms,including glossing over th signficance ofthe OEPM triggers caused by
its proposed system and thfalire to demonstrae thatthe proposed system‘simpact on allother
frequency assignments in the BSS Region 2 Plan is negligible, prticularly in regad to Canada‘s
Plan entrics t 91°, 82 and 72.5° W.L. Following EchoSta‘s logic, ts 86.5° W.L. tweener
spplication should similarly be disnissed as defetiveand unsceeptable forfling.

       EchoStar‘s apporent sugaestion that ts Application need no longer be considered on its
ovn,but could intead be folded ina broader rulemaking addressing on "tweener stelite
issues", should also be denied or diamissed. There is now ample evidence on the record
demonstrting that the Application i defective and should be denied outright. Indeed, EchoStar‘s
own actions(e, withdrawal ofitstweener appliations at 96.5" and 123.5° W.L) and arguments
in other proceedings (eg.opposition t the Spectrum Five tweener application at 114.5° WL.)
fully support the view that operation ofan EchoStar tweener DBS satelliteatthe 86.5° W.L.
positin would be seriously diruptive to Telesar‘s exiting DBS satelite operations and their
future development, and should therefore be denied.


        For ll of the bove reasons, Telesaturges the Commission o deny the EchoStar
Application for use of the 86.5° W.L. posiion.

                                             Respectfill sutenited,


                                               pod—
                                             Telest Canad


                                             Robet Power
                                             Director, Repultory & Govermment nitatives
                                             1601 Telesat Count
                                             Otawa, Onurio
                                             Canada,KIB 5B4

June 13, 2008


                                CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

1, Kim Riddick, do hereby certify that a copy ofthe foregoing Reply of Telesat Canada was
served by first—class mail, postage prepaid on this 13th day of June 2005 to the following:
Pantelis Michalopoulos                          David K. Moskowitz
Philip L. Malet                                 Senior Vie President and General Counsel
Steptoe & Johnson LLP                           EchoStar Satellite Corporation
1330 Connecticut Avenue, NW                     5701 South Santa Fe
Washington, DC 20036—1795                       Littleton, CO 80120

David R. Goodfriend
Director, Legal and Business Affairs
EchoStar Satellite Corporation
1233 20" Street, NW
Suite 701
Washington, DC 20036



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Document Modified: 2005-06-21 14:47:30

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