Response to Inquiry to FCC Tracking Number 488193

FCC ID: TX2-RTL8822BE

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Inquiry on 08/19/2016 :
Inquiry:
Dear Sir



The device is a backpack with WLAN 2Tx only, the appearance/antenna
location/surface definition is illustrated in the attached plot1.



For the front side of the backpack, the form factor is like a pyramid,
and it is flat for backside.



About the use scenario, I drawn some pictures for your review.



For plot 2, the backpack is behind the human’s back, so SAR evaluation
with the backpack’s backside (surface 4) touching against the flat phantom is
required.



For plot 3, the backpack may be in front of the user whatever the user
is stand or sit, also, the user’s hand may be near the antenna location. For
SAR
test configuration, whether we shall make the surfaces 2-1/2-2/3 touching
against the flat phantom for body SAR and surface 1 touching against the flat
phantom for extremity SAR?



For plot 4, the device may be rarely used like that since the pyramid
may make the user uncomfortable, in this case, do we need to evaluate SAR
with
surface 1 touching against the flat phantom for body SAR?



Thank you

FCC response on 08/19/2016


Thank you for you inquiry. In order to provide you with appropriate guidance
more information is needed.
1.     Please provide a diagram that includes the dimensions of the device
(including the thickness of the backpack). Please also include the distances
from the antennas to the edges/surfaces of the device.
2.     Actual photographs of the device taken from several angles would also
be helpful. Please also show the straps/belts that will secure the device to the
user.
3.     Please confirm if simultaneous transmission is possible. Also, please
provide information about the transmission frequency and conducted powers
(if available).
4.     Please provide information about the intended function of the
device. Expected duty cycle information would also be helpful.
5.     Please provide a user manual, in English, if available.

---Reply from Customer on 08/25/2016---

Dear Sir

Thanks for your comment.

We reply them as below, thanks.

To reply your response 1, you can refer to the attached plot 5/6, includingthe
dimensional size and updated antenna location (include the distance fromthe
antennas to the edges/surfaces).

To reply your response 2, it is under the evaluation process/stage, sothere is
no the actual photographs and the straps/belts presently.

To reply your response 3, the simultaneous transmission is possible,such as
WLAN MIMO. Also, the device supports WLAN2.4G/5G, and the maximum
outputpower is 20.5dBm.

To reply your response 4, the intended function of the device is to transmitthe
data to the smart TV by WLAN.

To reply your response 5, it is under the evaluation process/stage, sothere is
no the user manual presently.

FCC response on 08/31/2016
Thank you for your responses. It may be best to submit this inquiry when an
actual device is available, to ensure all of the possible use cases are
known. However, there is some preliminary guidance that can be given based


on the information provided. Note this guidance may change if when the
actual device is available the use cases change.

For the plot 2 position, the device should be tested for 1-g SAR at 0 mm from
the flat phantom filled with body-tissue simulating liquid.

For plot 3, the device should be tested for 10-g extremity SAR at 0 mm from
the flat phantom filled with body-tissue simulating liquid for sides/edges 1, 2-
1, and 2-2. Also, edge 3 should not be tested for extremity SAR but instead
be tested 1-g SAR at 0 mm from the flat phantom filled with body-tissue
simulating liquid. When the user is sitting, edge 3 will most likely be touching
(or in close proximity to) the user’s upper leg/thighs. The upper legs/thighs
are not considered extremities. Therefore, edge 3 should be tested for 1-g
SAR.

For plot 4, it is difficult to provide exact testing guidance without seeing an
actual photograph of the device to determine if it’s a viable use case. If you
would like to cover that position, test surface 1 for 1-g SAR at 0 mm from the
flat phantom filled with body-tissue simulating liquid. If you test in this
position, you can exclude the testing of surface 1 for extremity SAR as required
for plot 3, since the 1-g SAR at 0 mm for this position is more conservative.

Once again, this is preliminary guidance and may be subject to change until an
actual sample of the device is available. It is recommended to reconfirm the
above guidance via this KDB Inquiry when an actual sample is available and the
possible use cases are known.


---Reply from Customer on 12/07/2016---

Hello Sir

Thanks for your preliminary guidance.

We got the actual sample and took some photos for your reference, also,
theantenna location of WLAN Tx2 is updated as attached plot 1/2.

Besides, there is the protrusion on the backside (plot5) to mount thestrap, just
like plot 4/9/10.

Also, the manufacturer claimed that using the backpack reversely willnot be
allowed, it means that the use scenario would be plot 9/10 only.

In this case, for SAR test configuration, if we make the back surfacetouch
against the flat phantom with body tissue (1g-SAR<1.6), do you acceptthis?


Thank you


FCC response on 12/13/2016
Thank you for the clarifying information. Please address the following items.
1.     Please provide information about the distance of the TX 2 antenna from
the edges and surfaces of the device.
2.     You state the manufacturer claimed the backpack cannot be used
reversely. I am assuming this means the backpack cannot be worn on the
front of the user’s body. However, this could also mean the backpack is not
intended to be worn upside down. Please clarify.
3.     Also, even though the manufacturer claims the backpack cannot be worn
reversely there is a possibility this may happen. However, if the distance
between the TX 1 antenna and the lower edge of the backpack is large enough,
the exposure concerns may be minimized. Please provide the distance
between the TX 1 antenna and the lower edge of the backpack.
4.     You state the distance between the gap of antenna and top case is 4
mm in one diagram and 2 mm in another diagram. Please clarify. I am
assuming this is for TX 1 antenna. As requested above please provide
information about TX 2 antenna.
5.     You state the distance between the antenna (assuming this means the
TX 1 antenna) and the bottom case is 35 mm. Does this take into account the
protrusions on the back of the device? If not how big are the protrusions?
6.     Once again, please provide a User Manual, in English if available.


---Reply from Customer on 01/04/2017---

Hi Sir

Thanks for your comments.

To reply your response 1,

you may refer to the attached plot 11, TX2 to top surface(2) is 3.7mm, TX2 to
back surface(3) is 36.6mm (without taking into account the protrusions on the
backside).

To reply your response 2,

yes, the manufacturer claimed the backpack cannot be used reversely,
including the backpack cannot be worn on the front of the user’s body, and the
backpack cannot be worn upside down.

To reply your response 3,


you may refer to plot 12, the smallest distance between the TX 1 antenna and
the lower edge of the backpack is 37.6mm.

To reply your response 4,

you may refer to plot 13, the distance between the gap of TX1 and top surface
is 2mm, TX1 to side is 4mm.

To reply your response 5,

it doesn’t take into account the protrusions on the back of the device, the
protrusion height is 6.5mm.

To reply your response 6,

you may refer to the attached user manual.

Thank you

---Reply from Customer on 01/16/2017---

Hello Sir
Do you have further comment for this?
Thank you


FCC response on 01/30/2017
The user manual provided appears to be for an HP computer, not the
equipment mentioned in this inquiry. Please provide the correct user
manual. The user manual should include diagrams of how to properly wear the
device, specifically showing the user not to wear the device upside down or
with the front (the surface labelled surface 1 and 2 in the most recent
attachment) surface against their body.

Based on the antenna diagrams, due to the large distance between the
antennas and the user’s back when worn in the normal use conditions, SAR
testing for the surface that faces the user’s back may be excluded from SAR
testing. Please apply the standalone SAR test exclusion found in FCC KDB
Publication 447498 D01 General RF Exposure Guidance v06 to see if you
qualify for SAR test exclusion. As for the various edges, if those edges do not
qualify for SAR test exclusion based on the formula found in FCC KDB
Publication 447498 D01 General RF Exposure Guidance v06, please test for
10-g extremity SAR at 0 mm against the flat phantom filled with body tissue
simulating liquid for all edges and surfaces with a transmitting antenna located
at ≤ 25 mm from that surface or edge to address hand exposure.


---Reply from Customer on 02/13/2017---

Hello Sir

Thanks for yourcomment.

For the usermanual, the manufacturer will provide it later.

For the surfacethat faces the user’s back, SAR testing can’t be excluded based
on the maximumspecified output power (20.5dBm for 2.4/5GHz) and the min.
distance between theantenna and the user’s back (41.5mm, including the
protrusion height), you mayrefer to plot 15 table.

Since the surfacethat faces the user’s back can’t be excluded from SAR
testing, and theprotrusions are flat (plot 14), for SAR measurement on that
surface, I supposedthat whether we can make the protrusion touch against the
flat phantom for1g-SAR<1.6 (body SAR)? (like plot 16 shown)

Thank you

FCC response on 02/13/2017
Once the correct user manual is available, please respond to this inquiry with it
as an attachment. We want to ensure, as mentioned in the previous FCC
response on 01/30/2017, the user manual includes diagrams of how to
properly wear the device, specifically showing the user not to wear the device
upside down or with the front (the surface labelled surface 1 and 2 in the most
recent attachment) surface against their body.

Since the back surface (labelled as surface 3 in the most recent attachment)
does not qualify for SAR test exclusion, please test this surface at 0 mm, with
the protrusions touching the flat phantom, similar to what you propose in plot
16.

---Reply from Customer on 02/14/2017---

Hello Sir

Thanks for your comment.

For the user manual, if it include the diagrams of how to wear the
backpackcorrectly, but it doesn’t specifically showing the user not to wear the


deviceupside down or with the front surface against their body, is this
acceptable?

Thank you


FCC response on 02/15/2017
It would be preferable if the user manual shows the user not to wear the device
upside down or backwards in addition to showing the user how it should be
worn correctly (so there is no ambiguity).

---Reply from Customer on 05/17/2017---

Hello Sir

Please refer to the attached user manual.

Thanks a lot.


FCC response on 05/19/2017
Thank you for the updated user manual. As mentioned in the previous FCC
response on 02/15/2017, it would be preferable if the user manual shows the
user not to wear the device upside down or backwards in addition to showing
the user how it should be worn correctly (so there is no ambiguity). However,
after reviewing the attached user manual, the diagram provided is sufficient
and the proper use condition is clear.

That being said, the user manual contains no FCC regulatory information, only
EU regulatory information. Please update the user manual to include the
appropriate FCC regulatory information.


---Reply from Customer on 05/25/2017---

Hello Sir

Thanks foryour comment.

Please referto the attachment for FCC regulatory information

Thankyou


FCC response on 05/26/2017


Thank you for the FCC regulatory information document. The information is
acceptable. If you have any additional questions please do not hesitate to
ask.


---Reply from Customer on 07/05/2018---

Hello Sir

Is the inquiry still applicable?

Thankyou

FCC response on 07/10/2018
I am not sure exactly what you are asking. Do you have a new device? The
previously issued guidance including the user manual statement requirements
is still applicable unless there have been changes made to the device.

---Reply from Customer on 07/11/2018---

Hello Sir
No, this is the same device.
There are no any changes made to the device except WLAN module is
changed.
It is still WLAN 802.11a/b/g/n/ac but just change to another model number.
In this case, is the inquiry still applicable?
(SAR will be measured fully based on the previously issued guidance including
the user manual statement requirements.)
Thank you


FCC response on 07/18/2018
Yes, the previous guidance still applies. If a different WLAN module is being
used please ensure the grant conditions grant notes permit the new WLAN
module to be used in this context (i.e. it is classified as portable, it can be co-
located with other transmitters if needed, etc.)


---Reply from Customer on 03/18/2019---

Hello Sir
Thanks, we will follow the previous guidance to proceed SAR testing.
Thank you

FCC response on 03/20/2019


You're welcome. This inquiry is now closed.



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